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Times cracks to HousePriceCrashers... fight!

They don't get a link, but it's pretty clear whom Anne Ashworth is talking about here.

This pro-crash lobby accuses the economists at Nationwide and Halifax of publishing figures that give a falsely optimistic view. Journalists who report these numbers are deemed to be either mouthpieces for lenders or determined to support the value of their own property investments. The motives of this online fraternity that longs for the human misery produced by a market collapse are a mystery. Perhaps they hope that if they spread sufficient gloom, their rantings will become a self-fulfilling prophecy?

The Rat and Mouse believes the motives are a mystery because they're a complete mixture. At the more noble end... a mixture of old-fashioned Marxism and a genuine desire to address some of the iniquities of the system. Less noble... envy and a desire to punish (although these motives haven't been thought through, because it won't be the rich who'll be punished by rising interest rates and lower house prices, it will be anybody who just managed to get a hand on the bottom rung of the property ladder). Furthermore... a few instances of a need - at any cost - to be proved right. Clearly, though, after a certain amount of time, all bets are off. You can't predict something, wait indefinitely for it to happen, and then claim a victory. And finally - of course - there are the nutters, who just like attacking people on the Internet. Luckily, the site has enough of the former to make it an interesting read. If that's your thing, don't miss out on HousingPANIC either.

Meanwhile, if you want to know who the nutters are, it might be worth watching the comments section below Anne Ashworth's article for the next few days.

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Seems to me that "gloom" and "human misery" was a feature of the pre-crash situation as well as the post-crash. It is true that the rich rarely suffer much in these situations. Criticism of market hyping stats from compromised sources which were misleading people in a situation where anyone with a brain could see that there would have to be a major correction seems valuable. Criticism of so-called journalists who made a living disseminating this sort of stuff without proper scepticism and context also seems legitimate.

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Posted by Nonjatta at February 9, 2008 12:57 PM

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Not really sure that wanting to pay less money to the banks is strictly speaking Marxism. Personally, I'd be happier with more affordable housing costs so I'd have more disposable income to spend in the economy.

The housing market has become unaffordable to huge numbers of people and it seems some are happy to try and consolidate property ownership in fewer and fewer hands. A correction is underway and a fair reporting of the figures is only balanced journalism.

Average wage: £25,000
Average house price: £168,000

The maths are simple - this cannot continue, only 0.5% interest rates are preventing a full scale correction

Posted by Sam at December 11, 2010 5:48 PM

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HPC.co.uk is a dead and dying site. HPC exists only as a comfort blanket for those on there that wish to be seen as differant, those that did not or will not run with the crowd. Any dissenting voices (of which I became) from the HPC myth get banned and ran out of town (as happened to me). The site becomes more irrelevant by the day, certainly as it bans the contrarian thinkers.

Posted by godley at December 11, 2010 6:55 PM


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